You can't convince ole don-boy of that, or ideological numbnuts like him. Tom T. Hall wrote a song about people like that--title is a famous line in it that does better in its place for context:
I told him I was a poet, I was lookin' for the truth I do not care for horses, whiskey, women or the loot I said I was a writer, My soul was all on fire He looked at me an' said, "Son, you're a liar."
"It's faster horses, younger women, Older whiskey, and more money"
Well, I was disillusioned, if I say the least I grabbed him by the collar and I jerked him to his feet There was something cold and shiny layin' by my head So I started to believe the things he said
Well, my poet days are over and I'm back to being me As I enjoy the peace and comfort of reality If my boy ever asks me what it is that I have learned I think that I will readily affirm
"It's faster horses, younger women, Older whiskey, and more money"
@V. T. Eric Layton We have - many, maybe even most, of humanity's modern first-world nations have found a balance based on regional history and tradition which the United States lacks.
First mistake: categorizing the US as a nation with a single history, single tradition, single culture when it's an amalgam of many. For those who keep forgetting, write this down: E PLURIBUS UNUM.
@Clara Listensprechen IMO diversity has to be distributed more equally for E PLURBUS UNUM to apply.
The freakishly small minority of people who own and operate this place all seem to read from the same books, graduate from the same universities, and choose to participate in power games that rely on hundreds of millions of people compulsorily giving up life, liberty, and happiness in exchange for some small vacuous bit of privilege - all with unsustainable outcomes that end up swinging between extremes.
We have 50 states with wildly varying histories, traditions, and governments - for decades a clear minority of them have stood out as boat anchors holding our Union back. They're being exploited by anti-American seditionists to overthrow our constitutional democracy.
for decades a clear minority of them have stood out as boat anchors holding our Union back.
It's not even mere decades. The same states have been up to the same shit since well before the civil war. So, what? Verging on, if not already over, 200 years now.
It seems to me that the majority of those states which have actually improved some have done so primarily because enough people from more liberal areas have moved there in the last 157 years since the end of the US civil war to begin to push things in a more rational direction. Unfortunately, waiting for demographics to kick in sufficiently to make those changes substantial, and (hopefully) permanent, is going to take a while yet. Meanwhile, the not-yet-small-enough minority of bigots and racists still cling to power, and they're currently heading in the direction of a second civil war.
So quit pretending that those people = the entire US when they don't. Those are the people you give power to, power we as a nation have moved well past. The 19th century belongs in the 19th century to stay there.
Clara Listensprechen
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •donsimon
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •V. T. Eric Layton
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •#Truth, for the most part. I've said for years, that we need to take the good parts of all the isms and make one that actually works.
Clara Listensprechen
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •You can't convince ole don-boy of that, or ideological numbnuts like him. Tom T. Hall wrote a song about people like that--title is a famous line in it that does better in its place for context:
I told him I was a poet, I was lookin' for the truth
I do not care for horses, whiskey, women or the loot
I said I was a writer,
My soul was all on fire
He looked at me an' said, "Son, you're a liar."
"It's faster horses, younger women,
Older whiskey, and more money"
Well, I was disillusioned, if I say the least
I grabbed him by the collar and I jerked him to his feet
There was something cold and shiny layin' by my head
So I started to believe the things he said
Well, my poet days are over and I'm back to being me
As I enjoy the peace and comfort of reality
If my boy ever asks me what it is that I have learned
I think that I will readily affirm
"It's faster horses, younger women,
Older whiskey, and more money"
youtu.be/vnvMcX95G20
Richard
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •Clara Listensprechen
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •Richard
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •@Clara Listensprechen IMO diversity has to be distributed more equally for E PLURBUS UNUM to apply.
The freakishly small minority of people who own and operate this place all seem to read from the same books, graduate from the same universities, and choose to participate in power games that rely on hundreds of millions of people compulsorily giving up life, liberty, and happiness in exchange for some small vacuous bit of privilege - all with unsustainable outcomes that end up swinging between extremes.
We have 50 states with wildly varying histories, traditions, and governments - for decades a clear minority of them have stood out as boat anchors holding our Union back. They're being exploited by anti-American seditionists to overthrow our constitutional democracy.
Clara Listensprechen
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •Rob Anybody
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •It's not even mere decades. The same states have been up to the same shit since well before the civil war. So, what? Verging on, if not already over, 200 years now.
It seems to me that the majority of those states which have actually improved some have done so primarily because enough people from more liberal areas have moved there in the last 157 years since the end of the US civil war to begin to push things in a more rational direction. Unfortunately, waiting for demographics to kick in sufficiently to make those changes substantial, and (hopefully) permanent, is going to take a while yet. Meanwhile, the not-yet-small-enough minority of bigots and racists still cling to power, and they're currently heading in the direction of a second civil war.
Clara Listensprechen
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •donsimon
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •Clara Listensprechen
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •V. T. Eric Layton
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •Clara Listensprechen
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •V. T. Eric Layton
in reply to 𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕒 🏳️⚧️ • • •Nodding, wishing everyone here well, and moving on.
Have a nice day, friends.